Sep 4, 2012 1:00pm PDT
's exotic, grew up outside of the united states and yes, by the way, he is black. but this is -- this goes beyond that, because it really is -- i just think there's an edge to this one that we haven't seen. >> dana, you were just saying, that given all the attacks during the convention, the republican convention next week, it's not been of any great benefit to mitt romney. today we learn that the romney and ryan campaign are running robo calls and guess what's in the robo call, the president wants to raid medicare for $716 million and he's going to tax wheelchairs and pacemakers. i mean, if it failed during their convention, why do they keep doing this? >> and i expect next they'll come back again with that jamesville gm plant which has been discredited and that whole line about the simpson-bowles that paul ryan trotted out last week. so, you know, that doesn't seem to be working. you know, when you take something like the jamesville case that's flat wrong, that's one thing. gene does make an important case that welfare argument is more pernicious because it seems designed to divide people
Sep 3, 2012 1:00pm PDT
promise he'd made to the american people. >> madam speaker, the president of the united states. >> obama decided this was an issue he needed to take on early in his presidency or forfeit it entirely. >> chris, picking up your co commentary there, how much of this fight is still about the president's decision on health care reform? >> well, i think the republicans think it's a bad thing. even though it's something that american presidents have really argued for since the days of teddy roosevelt. certainly all progressives, all of them including harry truman and kennedy and johnsens and going back to both roosevelts. it's something that's always been on the progressive agenda and never been realized. of course conservatives are opposed to it. they were opposed to social security and medicare and medicaid and unemployment composition and child labor laws and minimum wage. i was just reading this book about the young winston churchill in the early part of last century. the politics haven't changed. they haven't changed. it's the same old arguments. predictable opposition to social progress.